Still hitting unwanted unpaved roads and unexpected road closures.
Quote from DrChris on 24.09.2026, 16:41I have been using Scenic for 4 years now and am overall very happy with it, and I know during that time you have had to massively redo parts of the service due to a change in mapping service. We are just finishing a road trip through upper peninsula and down the western coast of Michigan.
We had two instances of routing onto dirt roads and two of routing through road closures, even when the routing instructions were to avoid these. Additionally, when I went back to look at the mapping, there was inconsistent designation, sometimes depending on zoom level, other times couldn’t get the road closures to show at all. Please see some of the images below. I seem to think there was a version of scenic that would warn if you tried to purposely route against your “avoid” specifications.
Please note unpaved road markings appearing and disappearing at different zoom levels
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Also, see below routing over a road closure
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I may be using the program wrong, but this was pretty disruptive to our routing.
I hope you are feeling better soon!!
Thanks,
Chris.
I have been using Scenic for 4 years now and am overall very happy with it, and I know during that time you have had to massively redo parts of the service due to a change in mapping service. We are just finishing a road trip through upper peninsula and down the western coast of Michigan.
We had two instances of routing onto dirt roads and two of routing through road closures, even when the routing instructions were to avoid these. Additionally, when I went back to look at the mapping, there was inconsistent designation, sometimes depending on zoom level, other times couldn’t get the road closures to show at all. Please see some of the images below. I seem to think there was a version of scenic that would warn if you tried to purposely route against your “avoid” specifications.
Please note unpaved road markings appearing and disappearing at different zoom levels

Also, see below routing over a road closure

I may be using the program wrong, but this was pretty disruptive to our routing.
I hope you are feeling better soon!!
Thanks,
Chris.
Quote from DrChris on 27.09.2026, 15:31Sorry, now seeing that some of the photos are out of order, but I think you see what I mean.
thanks
Chris
Sorry, now seeing that some of the photos are out of order, but I think you see what I mean.
thanks
Chris
Quote from Guido on 28.09.2026, 15:23Road closures are not yet taken into account with the route calculation. This will be added soon. More info on that here: https://scenic.app/help/closures-and-incidents/
For the unpaved road... would you mind sending me a coordinate of an unpaved road that you were routed over? (Long press map and choose 'copy cooorinates' in the callout bubble).
And a screenshot of your routing settings?
Road closures are not yet taken into account with the route calculation. This will be added soon. More info on that here: https://scenic.app/help/closures-and-incidents/
For the unpaved road... would you mind sending me a coordinate of an unpaved road that you were routed over? (Long press map and choose 'copy cooorinates' in the callout bubble).
And a screenshot of your routing settings?
Quote from DrChris on 28.09.2026, 18:56Thank you for your quick reply.
The coordinates of one of the roads I detected are: 46.676663,-85.783719 or 46°40'35"N 85°47'1"W.
Here are the routing settings I currently have, although I sometimes will add "avoid highways" and set for curvy or beauty depending on the drive.
I hope you have a speedy recovery from your injury and keep up the good work on the app!!
Chris
Thank you for your quick reply.
The coordinates of one of the roads I detected are: 46.676663,-85.783719 or 46°40'35"N 85°47'1"W.
Here are the routing settings I currently have, although I sometimes will add "avoid highways" and set for curvy or beauty depending on the drive.

I hope you have a speedy recovery from your injury and keep up the good work on the app!!
Chris
Quote from DrChris on 28.09.2026, 19:00Also, I think that one contributing factor may be that I put vias on the unpaved portion of the road, however I seem to remember that when I tried to force a route on an unwanted road last year, I was warned that the route contained an "unpaved road" (for example.)
Also, I think that one contributing factor may be that I put vias on the unpaved portion of the road, however I seem to remember that when I tried to force a route on an unwanted road last year, I was warned that the route contained an "unpaved road" (for example.)
Quote from tcherpeti on 29.09.2026, 06:08Salut, quelque chose d'excellent vient d'apparaître dans la planification d'itinéraire , scenic indique désormais suivant une couleur les portions de route qui ne correspondent pas aux paramètres sélectionnés.
brun pour portions nons-pavées et j'ai vu du vert pour routes à péage.
Ce qui permet de modifier facilement l'itinéraire en répérant d'un coup d'oeil sur le power planner. Bien vu !
Salut, quelque chose d'excellent vient d'apparaître dans la planification d'itinéraire , scenic indique désormais suivant une couleur les portions de route qui ne correspondent pas aux paramètres sélectionnés.
brun pour portions nons-pavées et j'ai vu du vert pour routes à péage.
Ce qui permet de modifier facilement l'itinéraire en répérant d'un coup d'oeil sur le power planner. Bien vu !

Quote from Guido on 29.09.2026, 08:23That was indeed added in the latest version 4.45 on ios.
if you place a via point on an unpaved section Scenic cant avoid it as it will try to make you reach every waypoint. This takes priority over the routing mode.
That was indeed added in the latest version 4.45 on ios.
if you place a via point on an unpaved section Scenic cant avoid it as it will try to make you reach every waypoint. This takes priority over the routing mode.
Quote from tcherpeti on 29.09.2026, 08:28C'est tout récent. je l'ai vu hier soir pour la première fois en modifiant un itinéraire.
Je pense que c'est apparu avec la mise à jour 4.45 que j'ai installée dimanche.
Il y a d'autres choses intéressantes comme la possibilité d'imprimer un "roadbook papier"
J'imagine que Guido a du faire bosser les infirmières sur son application 😉
C'est tout récent. je l'ai vu hier soir pour la première fois en modifiant un itinéraire.
Je pense que c'est apparu avec la mise à jour 4.45 que j'ai installée dimanche.
Il y a d'autres choses intéressantes comme la possibilité d'imprimer un "roadbook papier"
J'imagine que Guido a du faire bosser les infirmières sur son application 😉
Quote from DrChris on 29.09.2026, 08:30Yes, I understand that. These routes were planned months ago, so probably before that update. This and when rerouting to avoid road closures is eventually incorporated will be very helpful. The only issue remaining may be the road type disappearing with different zoom levels.
Yes, I understand that. These routes were planned months ago, so probably before that update. This and when rerouting to avoid road closures is eventually incorporated will be very helpful. The only issue remaining may be the road type disappearing with different zoom levels.
Quote from RobTiger on 08.10.2026, 17:41I experienced a similar issue. Just home yesterday from a 1600-mile ride from eastern Pennsylvania to Athens, Ohio, and back. Despite having 'Avoid Unpaved' selected while planning and creating routes, Scenic constantly directed us onto unpaved roads during the ride.
I thought it might be a difference in Routing Mode on the iPad/MacBook where I did the planning and Routing Mode on the iPhone for navigation, so I made sure the phone was also set to Avoid Unpaved. When using Motorcycle-Curvy, Scenic repeatedly guided us to unpaved roads, some really rough (fine for those of us on ADV bikes, but not for the others).
Perhaps it's a deficiency in road identification in whatever source maps Scenic is using. I did download the offline maps - it makes Scenic work much more smoothly in the middle of nowhere.
Rob.
I experienced a similar issue. Just home yesterday from a 1600-mile ride from eastern Pennsylvania to Athens, Ohio, and back. Despite having 'Avoid Unpaved' selected while planning and creating routes, Scenic constantly directed us onto unpaved roads during the ride.
I thought it might be a difference in Routing Mode on the iPad/MacBook where I did the planning and Routing Mode on the iPhone for navigation, so I made sure the phone was also set to Avoid Unpaved. When using Motorcycle-Curvy, Scenic repeatedly guided us to unpaved roads, some really rough (fine for those of us on ADV bikes, but not for the others).
Perhaps it's a deficiency in road identification in whatever source maps Scenic is using. I did download the offline maps - it makes Scenic work much more smoothly in the middle of nowhere.
Rob.
Quote from mattsz on 08.10.2026, 18:11Rob - you don't say whether the roads are actually shown as unpaved in Scenic. I have a problem like this in my riding area. It easy to identify the cause: many of our local unpaved roads are not correctly identified as such in the map data. All of the features aside, Scenic can only ever be as good as the map data it uses. When that map data is inaccurate, well, we know what happens. Scenic doesn't know which roads are actually unpaved, so the "avoid unpaved" setting is ineffective. I'm not saying that's what's happening for you, but it's worth investigating...
Rob - you don't say whether the roads are actually shown as unpaved in Scenic. I have a problem like this in my riding area. It easy to identify the cause: many of our local unpaved roads are not correctly identified as such in the map data. All of the features aside, Scenic can only ever be as good as the map data it uses. When that map data is inaccurate, well, we know what happens. Scenic doesn't know which roads are actually unpaved, so the "avoid unpaved" setting is ineffective. I'm not saying that's what's happening for you, but it's worth investigating...
Quote from RobTiger on 10.10.2026, 09:06"...many of our local unpaved roads are not correctly identified as such in the map data."
I agree this is likely the cause, as the roads don't show as unpaved in Scenic.
"...many of our local unpaved roads are not correctly identified as such in the map data."
I agree this is likely the cause, as the roads don't show as unpaved in Scenic.


