Standard Routing Option
Quote from massi on 13.05.2022, 07:11Hi,
why is it not possible to choose curvy or something else in the "Standard Routing", I can only choose "Ausgewogen, Kurz, Schnell" or am I doing something wrong?
Regards
Marc-Antón
Hi,
why is it not possible to choose curvy or something else in the "Standard Routing", I can only choose "Ausgewogen, Kurz, Schnell" or am I doing something wrong?
Regards
Marc-Antón
Quote from Guido on 13.05.2022, 09:34It’s because curvy routings are generated by Kurviger. They add extra via points to the route to make it curvy. And then Scenic calculated with the normal Fast, Short, Balanced routing between those via points
It’s because curvy routings are generated by Kurviger. They add extra via points to the route to make it curvy. And then Scenic calculated with the normal Fast, Short, Balanced routing between those via points
Quote from Deleted user on 15.05.2022, 20:31I'm new to using a routing App so forgive me if I ask a dumb question. I don't understand the response. After Googling, I understand the "Kurviger" is a German motorcycle routing app. When I do this I get a response of "Curvy route generation requires at least two points".
Based on wasting 1 credit, it would appear that you...
- Set a start point (this would be 1 point)
- set a end point (This would be the 2nd point)
- Next I chose "Round", for round trip (I suspect it would have worked on just the end point as well). This took me to the settings where i was able to use the "Curve" option.
I'm new to using a routing App so forgive me if I ask a dumb question. I don't understand the response. After Googling, I understand the "Kurviger" is a German motorcycle routing app. When I do this I get a response of "Curvy route generation requires at least two points".
Based on wasting 1 credit, it would appear that you...
- Set a start point (this would be 1 point)
- set a end point (This would be the 2nd point)
- Next I chose "Round", for round trip (I suspect it would have worked on just the end point as well). This took me to the settings where i was able to use the "Curve" option.
Quote from Guido on 16.05.2022, 02:53Both curvy routing and round trip generation work through Kurviger. Their interface looks similar in the sense that you can choose a curvy routing mode and avoidances. For round trip, in addition to routing mode and avoidances, you can also choose the rough direction of the round trip and the length (in KM or Miles) that you'd like the round trip roughly to be.
Curvy route generation requires at minimum 2 points/markers on the map. E.g. a start (green) flag and an end (black/white checkered) flag.
Round trip generation only needs the start point/flag (it will warn you about removing all other points). It uses the start point as the beginning and end of the round trip, and then generates a round trip in the chose direction for the choses distance, with he chose routing mode and avoidances.
Does this explain?
Both curvy routing and round trip generation work through Kurviger. Their interface looks similar in the sense that you can choose a curvy routing mode and avoidances. For round trip, in addition to routing mode and avoidances, you can also choose the rough direction of the round trip and the length (in KM or Miles) that you'd like the round trip roughly to be.
Curvy route generation requires at minimum 2 points/markers on the map. E.g. a start (green) flag and an end (black/white checkered) flag.
Round trip generation only needs the start point/flag (it will warn you about removing all other points). It uses the start point as the beginning and end of the round trip, and then generates a round trip in the chose direction for the choses distance, with he chose routing mode and avoidances.
Does this explain?
Quote from Deleted user on 16.05.2022, 15:40That helps me understand it better...thank you.
That helps me understand it better...thank you.
Quote from Autchirion on 05.04.2024, 00:58Quote from Guido on 13.05.2022, 09:34It’s because curvy routings are generated by Kurviger. They add extra via points to the route to make it curvy. And then Scenic calculated with the normal Fast, Short, Balanced routing between those via points
Sorry for bringing this corpse back, but I think OP has a point many people (at least I do as well) would like to see. I understand what you are doing in scenic and how kurviger does it (using both services, since I love the Option to plan on the PC).
So do I correctly understand, by setting the "standard routing" option we select what is going to happen between the shaping points provided by kurviger?
If so, may I suggest to split up "standard routing" into:
- standard routing, which selects the default routing for when you start a route from the map and what default option is selected when creating a route in the power planer. You may argue you could create even two out of these in order to split between map and power planer, but this might overload the UI and I'm by no means an UI developer.
- shaping route, which does the exact same thing as current standard routing (as I understand) does.
I hope I was able to explain my Idea and would love to see this feature implemented since I quite often forget to switch to my prefered kurviger routing type (I don't use the app for any other routing than if I want the "nice" route).
Cheers
Quote from Guido on 13.05.2022, 09:34It’s because curvy routings are generated by Kurviger. They add extra via points to the route to make it curvy. And then Scenic calculated with the normal Fast, Short, Balanced routing between those via points
Sorry for bringing this corpse back, but I think OP has a point many people (at least I do as well) would like to see. I understand what you are doing in scenic and how kurviger does it (using both services, since I love the Option to plan on the PC).
So do I correctly understand, by setting the "standard routing" option we select what is going to happen between the shaping points provided by kurviger?
If so, may I suggest to split up "standard routing" into:
- standard routing, which selects the default routing for when you start a route from the map and what default option is selected when creating a route in the power planer. You may argue you could create even two out of these in order to split between map and power planer, but this might overload the UI and I'm by no means an UI developer.
- shaping route, which does the exact same thing as current standard routing (as I understand) does.
I hope I was able to explain my Idea and would love to see this feature implemented since I quite often forget to switch to my prefered kurviger routing type (I don't use the app for any other routing than if I want the "nice" route).
Cheers
Quote from Guido on 05.04.2024, 07:47I understand what you mean. I'm afraid this will cause confusion though. The ideal solution would be if HERE maps would have a curvy mode as well. Then there would be no more need for shaping points for curvy routing.
It's still on the list to give this another look and investigate other options for this. But for the moment, I will keep it as is.
I understand what you mean. I'm afraid this will cause confusion though. The ideal solution would be if HERE maps would have a curvy mode as well. Then there would be no more need for shaping points for curvy routing.
It's still on the list to give this another look and investigate other options for this. But for the moment, I will keep it as is.
Quote from Deleted user on 06.04.2024, 12:45Hallo, bin schon länger Nutzer von Scenic auf dem iphone, aber neu im Forum angemeldet.
Nachdem ich nun über Winter die App eigentlich nicht gebraucht habe, kann ich aktuell die Routing-Option "Ausgewogen" nicht mehr finden. In der Auswahl-Box gibt es: Schnell, Kurz, Alternative, Kurvig Schnell, Kurvig, Extra Kurvig und Schön, wobei letzteres als Beta angezeigt wird.
Ausserdem habe ich nun bei mehreren Routen, die ich im Winter gespeichert habe, doch einige Abweichungen der Punkte neben der Strasse entdeckt. Das hat mich bei der ersten Fahrt heute zwei Mal ins Schwitzen gebracht, weil die App mich falsch geschickt hat. Kann das an der neuen Version des Kartenmaterials liegen? Sollte ich dann alle Routen noch einmal neu importieren oder aufrufen, überprüfen, bei Bedarf manuell bearbeiten und neu speichern? Demnächst stehen drei Wochen fahren in England und Wales an, da möchte ich nicht ins Schwimmen kommen.
Danke, Joachim
Hallo, bin schon länger Nutzer von Scenic auf dem iphone, aber neu im Forum angemeldet.
Nachdem ich nun über Winter die App eigentlich nicht gebraucht habe, kann ich aktuell die Routing-Option "Ausgewogen" nicht mehr finden. In der Auswahl-Box gibt es: Schnell, Kurz, Alternative, Kurvig Schnell, Kurvig, Extra Kurvig und Schön, wobei letzteres als Beta angezeigt wird.
Ausserdem habe ich nun bei mehreren Routen, die ich im Winter gespeichert habe, doch einige Abweichungen der Punkte neben der Strasse entdeckt. Das hat mich bei der ersten Fahrt heute zwei Mal ins Schwitzen gebracht, weil die App mich falsch geschickt hat. Kann das an der neuen Version des Kartenmaterials liegen? Sollte ich dann alle Routen noch einmal neu importieren oder aufrufen, überprüfen, bei Bedarf manuell bearbeiten und neu speichern? Demnächst stehen drei Wochen fahren in England und Wales an, da möchte ich nicht ins Schwimmen kommen.
Danke, Joachim
Quote from Guido on 06.04.2024, 12:52Hello Joachim,
Ja, das neue Kartenframework und der neue Routing-Algorithmus können ein Grund für das unterschiedliche Routing sein. Ich empfehle, die Routen, die Sie mit der alten Version erstellt haben, zu überprüfen, bevor Sie sie navigieren.
Der neue Routing-Algorithmus ist auch der Grund,. warum Ausgewogen durch Alternative ersetzt wurde.
Ich hoffe, dass dies hilft/erklärt. Wenn nicht oder wenn Sie andere Fragen haben, lassen Sie es mich bitte wissen. Ich helfe Ihnen gerne weiter.
Herzliche Grüße und gute Fahrt,
Guido
Hello Joachim,
Ja, das neue Kartenframework und der neue Routing-Algorithmus können ein Grund für das unterschiedliche Routing sein. Ich empfehle, die Routen, die Sie mit der alten Version erstellt haben, zu überprüfen, bevor Sie sie navigieren.
Der neue Routing-Algorithmus ist auch der Grund,. warum Ausgewogen durch Alternative ersetzt wurde.
Ich hoffe, dass dies hilft/erklärt. Wenn nicht oder wenn Sie andere Fragen haben, lassen Sie es mich bitte wissen. Ich helfe Ihnen gerne weiter.
Herzliche Grüße und gute Fahrt,
Guido
