Skipped Stops
Quote from MLH on 20.05.2026, 05:02While out riding round Wales with Atticus Cat last Saturday, we stopped to check our routing. We were both already a long way past suspecting that something contrary was going on. It turned out that Scenic had totally ignored one Stop in the route. We were going from a Stop at Roundton Nature Reserve DEC 52.544888,-3.044643 to a Stop at Montgomery DEC: 52.560588,-3.148888, then onwards to a Stop at Abermule DEC: 52.545939,-3.248852.
Atticus Cat’s Scenic directed him on that route. My Scenic simply skipped the mid-point Stop, as can be seen from the route & 3 Stops shown here: https://postimg.cc/sBRPTdBr.
There was no notification, no “shall I skip..”, it just didn’t lead me to that Stop.
While out riding round Wales with Atticus Cat last Saturday, we stopped to check our routing. We were both already a long way past suspecting that something contrary was going on. It turned out that Scenic had totally ignored one Stop in the route. We were going from a Stop at Roundton Nature Reserve DEC 52.544888,-3.044643 to a Stop at Montgomery DEC: 52.560588,-3.148888, then onwards to a Stop at Abermule DEC: 52.545939,-3.248852.
Atticus Cat’s Scenic directed him on that route. My Scenic simply skipped the mid-point Stop, as can be seen from the route & 3 Stops shown here: https://postimg.cc/sBRPTdBr.
There was no notification, no “shall I skip..”, it just didn’t lead me to that Stop.
Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 07:02Scenic should never automatically skip a Stop, regardless of your detour behoaviour setting. It can skip via points if you have it set to automatically skip.
The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
what are your detour behaviour settings?
Scenic should never automatically skip a Stop, regardless of your detour behoaviour setting. It can skip via points if you have it set to automatically skip.
The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
what are your detour behaviour settings?
Quote from Atticuscat on 20.05.2026, 09:10Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 07:02The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
I was following using the route Mike had made. It was definitely a stop and my iOS beta Scenic was directing me to it.
Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 07:02The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
I was following using the route Mike had made. It was definitely a stop and my iOS beta Scenic was directing me to it.
Quote from MLH on 20.05.2026, 09:11Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 07:02Scenic should never automatically skip a Stop, regardless of your detour behoaviour setting
OK, that’s good to know.
It can skip via points if you have it set to automatically skip.
Nope, these are entered as Stops. All the waypoints on my day’s routes are Stops because we had to stop at each one and look for the answer to a clue.
The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
That screenshot is of a Ride that should have gone to all 3 Stops (right to left) on a much longer Route. Until we’d almost arrived at the 3rd Stop, I was still unaware that we were not on target for the 2nd Stop. I did not press any buttons or anything else, I just followed the route given on screen from 1st Stop to what I thought was the 2nd.
what are your detour behaviour settings?
1. Don’t recalculate
2. Skip Waypoint button on map ON
3. Ask to confirm skipping waypoint ON
4. Auto-skip next Via OFF
5. Guide me back button on map ON
Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 07:02Scenic should never automatically skip a Stop, regardless of your detour behoaviour setting
OK, that’s good to know.
It can skip via points if you have it set to automatically skip.
Nope, these are entered as Stops. All the waypoints on my day’s routes are Stops because we had to stop at each one and look for the answer to a clue.
The screenshot shows a ride with 3 separate locations. Are you sure the route itself had the stop in it? was it a stop or a via point?
That screenshot is of a Ride that should have gone to all 3 Stops (right to left) on a much longer Route. Until we’d almost arrived at the 3rd Stop, I was still unaware that we were not on target for the 2nd Stop. I did not press any buttons or anything else, I just followed the route given on screen from 1st Stop to what I thought was the 2nd.
what are your detour behaviour settings?
1. Don’t recalculate
2. Skip Waypoint button on map ON
3. Ask to confirm skipping waypoint ON
4. Auto-skip next Via OFF
5. Guide me back button on map ON
Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 13:26Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
With Detour Behaviour to "Don't recalculate" Scenic stops navigating you when you leave the route (it will say "Go to route"), and will restart navigation if you reach the route again, NO MATTER WHERE. At the moment and place when and where you reach the route again, it will assume that any waypoint (stops and via) "behind" the point where you join the route, are reached, so will not guide you there again.
My hypothesis is that this is what might have happened. Especially plausible if the road to go and come back from stop 2 is the same, but I'd need to see the route to know this for sure.
Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
With Detour Behaviour to "Don't recalculate" Scenic stops navigating you when you leave the route (it will say "Go to route"), and will restart navigation if you reach the route again, NO MATTER WHERE. At the moment and place when and where you reach the route again, it will assume that any waypoint (stops and via) "behind" the point where you join the route, are reached, so will not guide you there again.
My hypothesis is that this is what might have happened. Especially plausible if the road to go and come back from stop 2 is the same, but I'd need to see the route to know this for sure.
Quote from MLH on 20.05.2026, 15:33Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 13:26Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
Atticus Cat may have the complete original route but I do not. In order to make it behave and not try to send us back miles & miles to the original starting point, I had to repeatedly move the start & remove earlier Stops. My remaining copy is heavily shortened. Sorry.
With Detour Behaviour to "Don't recalculate" Scenic stops navigating you when you leave the route (it will say "Go to route"), and will restart navigation if you reach the route again, NO MATTER WHERE. At the moment and place when and where you reach the route again, it will assume that any waypoint (stops and via) "behind" the point where you join the route, are reached, so will not guide you there again.
Useful to know.
My hypothesis is that this is what might have happened. Especially plausible if the road to go and come back from stop 2 is the same, but I'd need to see the route to know this for sure.
🤷♂️
Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 13:26Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
Atticus Cat may have the complete original route but I do not. In order to make it behave and not try to send us back miles & miles to the original starting point, I had to repeatedly move the start & remove earlier Stops. My remaining copy is heavily shortened. Sorry.
With Detour Behaviour to "Don't recalculate" Scenic stops navigating you when you leave the route (it will say "Go to route"), and will restart navigation if you reach the route again, NO MATTER WHERE. At the moment and place when and where you reach the route again, it will assume that any waypoint (stops and via) "behind" the point where you join the route, are reached, so will not guide you there again.
Useful to know.
My hypothesis is that this is what might have happened. Especially plausible if the road to go and come back from stop 2 is the same, but I'd need to see the route to know this for sure.
🤷♂️
Quote from Atticuscat on 20.05.2026, 15:38Quote from MLH on 20.05.2026, 15:33Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 13:26Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
Atticus Cat may have the complete original route but I do not.
I don’t have the original because I never made a (editable) copy. If I load the route now I get the last edit Mike made.
Quote from MLH on 20.05.2026, 15:33Quote from Guido on 20.05.2026, 13:26Could you share the link to this route with me? I'd like to see how you're getting from and to stop 2.
Atticus Cat may have the complete original route but I do not.
I don’t have the original because I never made a (editable) copy. If I load the route now I get the last edit Mike made.
