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Hi !

I am using Scenic since 1,5 years now and it works fine.
At the moment i am using simple Apple earpad to listen the navigation.

Now i am thinking about using SENA 50S

Has someone already tried that in combination with SCENIC APP ?

Any feedback is welcome




Hi Dietmar,

There are a few users having problems with the Sena SMH5. Check here: and here:

Ive also had some email feedback of sena users having problems. Way less email from cardo users.

My personal advice: unless you have buddies with a Sena and you want to intercom with them, go for the Cardo. It’s simply better!  It’s not only me saying this... various reviews all find the Cardo better and easier to use. Just search YouTube for “Sena vs Cardo”  Sena only does one thing better than Cardo: marketing!


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As for using with Scenic. It will work just fine. More or less similar that your normal earbuds be it wired or Bluetooth. The only thing that’s different is that the Sena and Cardo have more connections audio inputs (intercom, music, phonecall, fm radio, gps) and that’s where it sometimes goes wrong. E.g. by default the voice guidance instructions won’t come through if your buddy is talking to you over the intercom. That’s a matter of priorities that the Sena and cardo give to their various inputs. Depending on your model that’s configurable.  In that case you might want to change the voice output to ‘as phone call’ in Scenic.
Hope this helps you a bit further.

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Hi Guido,

thx for your feedback.

If money is not the factor, which one out them ywould you suggest ?




If my helmet would be compatible with the pack talk slim, I would take that (there’s a compatibility list on their site). It’s a less intrusive (and less wind catching) design. Otherwise I’d go for the bold, or maybe the black. Technology and feature wise they are all three the same. I think the black has bigger speakers but otherwise looks pretty similar to the bold

If you’re only going to use it for music and phone (no intercom) or perhaps passenger only intercom, than take a look at their freecom series.

But if money were no object I’d take one of the packtalks just to have the option of mesh intercom, should any of my buddies get it in the future.

In fact... I just got a new helmet and thinking about the packtalk slim myself. First waiting for a new windscreen to see if that helps reduce helmet noise. ( I’m currently using Bluetooth in-ear earbuds which help with noise isolation, but tend to fall out when putting on the new helmet. ). Windscreen might reduce noise enough to go without earplugs on shorter rides... and in that case will get packtalk slim.

(keep an eye on the blog for updates 🙂)

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For what its worth: I have tried the 50S with a group of riders that also included the 50R

Biggest difference to the Cardo Bold/Black:

1.) Sena has very bad Wind noise suppression/cancelation. Lots of fiddling around with sensitivity all the way down to the lowest level. In a group of 3-4 riders there seems always someone broadcasting wind noise, because the helmet is open, the mic slightly misplaced or somebody is breathing to heavyly into the mic. That Cardo Bold/Black works out of the box with minimal or no adjustments to sound settings

2.) In mesh mode (default for the Cardo) the Sena 50S/R lasts at times only 2-3h before asking for a recharge. The Cardo we have used for 8-10h rides and even when it says its low (25%) you can typically go for another 2h)

3.) The JBL speakers of the Cardo have much better low frequency/bass support

Other than that both work well with Scenic.