More issues with route editing during a ride

#1 · 20.09.2025, 10:13

Quote from Atticuscat on 20.09.2025, 10:13
Yesterday while out on a long planned ride I had need to change my route to remove a stop and change the some of the pre-chosen roads to avoid congestion. I had already visited planned Stop1 and was at planned Stop2 without issue (167 miles into the ride). At Stop2 with the ride tracking paused (and GPS off) I made the changes (moving the map, selecting Edit/Change Route, making the amendments then pressing the left arrow (top left of screen) then Close to take me back the the navigation screen). After the changes the stops had been renamed, I was at planned Stop2 which had now become Stop1 and all previous via points removed and subsequent ones renumbered, as I expected.

All looked good except Scenic also included routing back to the original Stop1 where I had already come from. There were no via or stop points back along that route. The attached screenshot (post edit) may help to clarify, my breadcrumb trail is visible.

I never got to see what would happen when I got to the bifurcation of the route options because Scenic lost all the route as soon as I resume the ride. I pulled up my original planned route, edited that to delete the bit I had already ridden and made the changes as above. I set off with navigation now working but the display was North Up not Riding Direction Up. It took me a few miles to realise this (my route took me back the way I’d come from, only one road, so I wasn’t paying much attention to Scenic for a while). I tried toggling North Up/Riding Direction Up with the big buttons which indicated a setting change but nothing actually changed. I tried this on my CarPlay and phone. I had to kill Scenic and restart to get Riding Direction Up active again.

I made another stop for coffee where I paused tracking with GPS off then resumed without issue, no route editing. A couple of hours after that it was starting to get gloomy in the forrest areas I was riding so I stopped to put my phone into dark mode. (More on that in another subject.) I lost the route again and had to kill and restart Scenic once more. I pulled up my original route and selected to start navigation from where I joined the route (which I was already on) which took me home. I’ve just noticed that of the three track logs for yesterdays ride (up to first route lost, first to second route lost, and second route lost to home) the first two are named Just Tracking with date and time (as if just tracking a ride without navigation) and the last one is named as per the original planned route, presumably because that one managed to reach a conclusion without Scenic having a problem.

This isn’t the first time I’ve experienced routing problems or route orientation problems. Any advice if I’m doing something wrong? Guido, I can provide routes and track logs if you think there’s a bug to track down.

Scenic V4.24, offline maps, iPhone X iOS 16.7.11 and Carpuride W702, route originally planned on iPad Pro iOS 18.6.2

Yesterday while out on a long planned ride I had need to change my route to remove a stop and change the some of the pre-chosen roads to avoid congestion. I had already visited planned Stop1 and was at planned Stop2 without issue (167 miles into the ride). At Stop2 with the ride tracking paused (and GPS off) I made the changes (moving the map, selecting Edit/Change Route, making the amendments then pressing the left arrow (top left of screen) then Close to take me back the the navigation screen). After the changes the stops had been renamed, I was at planned Stop2 which had now become Stop1 and all previous via points removed and subsequent ones renumbered, as I expected.

All looked good except Scenic also included routing back to the original Stop1 where I had already come from. There were no via or stop points back along that route. The attached screenshot (post edit) may help to clarify, my breadcrumb trail is visible.

I never got to see what would happen when I got to the bifurcation of the route options because Scenic lost all the route as soon as I resume the ride. I pulled up my original planned route, edited that to delete the bit I had already ridden and made the changes as above. I set off with navigation now working but the display was North Up not Riding Direction Up. It took me a few miles to realise this (my route took me back the way I’d come from, only one road, so I wasn’t paying much attention to Scenic for a while). I tried toggling North Up/Riding Direction Up with the big buttons which indicated a setting change but nothing actually changed. I tried this on my CarPlay and phone. I had to kill Scenic and restart to get Riding Direction Up active again.

I made another stop for coffee where I paused tracking with GPS off then resumed without issue, no route editing. A couple of hours after that it was starting to get gloomy in the forrest areas I was riding so I stopped to put my phone into dark mode. (More on that in another subject.) I lost the route again and had to kill and restart Scenic once more. I pulled up my original route and selected to start navigation from where I joined the route (which I was already on) which took me home. I’ve just noticed that of the three track logs for yesterdays ride (up to first route lost, first to second route lost, and second route lost to home) the first two are named Just Tracking with date and time (as if just tracking a ride without navigation) and the last one is named as per the original planned route, presumably because that one managed to reach a conclusion without Scenic having a problem.

This isn’t the first time I’ve experienced routing problems or route orientation problems. Any advice if I’m doing something wrong? Guido, I can provide routes and track logs if you think there’s a bug to track down.

Scenic V4.24, offline maps, iPhone X iOS 16.7.11 and Carpuride W702, route originally planned on iPad Pro iOS 18.6.2

#2 · 22.09.2025, 09:17

Hmmm.... very strange. I will investigate. Could you share the original route with me?

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#3 · 22.09.2025, 10:24

Will do in a couple of days, I’m away on another little jaunt overnight. I’ll also share todays route because a similar thing happened when I edited again with a purple nav tail on a long piece of route I’d already ridden (this time including greyed out Via and Stop point, which I deleted but the purple tail didn’t disappear) but this time it didn’t crash and the tail disappeared once I’d started to navigate the new route again. Screenshots attached. (I was at Stop2 when I edited.)

I’ve also seen occur on both of these routes long before I’ve done the editing, approaching a (just one) Via point it has been greyed out before I’ve reached it. Can’t remember which one for the first route but todays was original Via2 (which isn’t the greyed out Via2 in the attached image, they’ve been renumbered during the edit.)

#4 · 22.09.2025, 10:58

Do you have auto-skip turned on? This might explain why a via is greyed-out before you reach it. More info here: https://scenic.app/help/detour-behaviour-scenic/

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#5 · 22.09.2025, 13:12

Quote from Guido on 22.09.2025, 10:58

Do you have auto-skip turned on? This might explain why a via is greyed-out before you reach it. More info here: https://scenic.app/help/detour-behaviour-scenic/

I do have auto-skip turned on. Looking at my track-log overlay on that section of road I guess it’s a combination of GPS signal accuracy and maybe sampling rate. My phone was in my pocket at the time (an old BMW Rallye jacket, I’m convinced they’d make a good Faraday cage).

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