Charge IPhone and use Scenic while driving

Quote from Guido on 11.07.2021, 09:13

Does your outlet have enough power. a 10 watt (2 amp) charger is recommended to be able to charge while running a navigation app. Also make sure it’s a good quality charger and cable. Some (Chinese) ones might say they are 10 watt while they are actually not.

It could also be an electrical problem  when you start riding typically the voltage of your electrical system of the bike changes a bit (becomes higher, to charge your battery etc)

I don’t believe this is Scenic related. Try running another navigation app and see if it happens.

Quote from 4ho on 11.07.2021, 10:50

I marched off with meter and various cables and started with old plug, old cable and Google navigation - and it woked. Without having changed anything, it also worked with Scenic ...
Had to explain my phone probably first, how it can be done :-).

Thanks Guido for the quick response - perfect! Best Klaus

Quote from XYZZY on 23.05.2022, 18:13

Don't underestimate the temperature... direct sunlight, GPS, and charging... all three of those activities generate heat in your phone.

Quote from FLMike on 22.07.2022, 12:33

I have the same issue:

Using an iPhone X with a 5v 3.1 amp charger, when using scenic the battery lasts only about 4-5 hours.

I don’t have this issue when using Google or Apple navigation!

I have tried a different charger, same results. I have tried placing the iPhone into “airplane mode”, same results.

I’m using Scenic to map my local riding, but revert to DeLorme Atlas and Apple navigation when traveling or running any route longer than 150 miles

Quote from Mex on 22.07.2022, 13:09

Hi FLMike.

 

In my case i use a rav power conentor 5V 4.8 A.

While i use Senic theres nothing else running in the backround, but Spotif*.

I tested iPhone SE 2016, iPhone 7 (used one, just for riding) and my 11 pro. No problems, even when we ride 9 hours.

Without charging battery will last for roundabout 2.5 hours.

Dont think it has something to do with Scenic.

Of course Scenic needs more power than google maps, but your setup shut be able to keep up the power-level.

I‘d try to test this with a powerbank.
Same result: Senic is guilty 😎

Diffrent result: Setup is guilty.

Regards, Mex

Quote from Guido on 22.07.2022, 13:24

Quote from FLMike on 22.07.2022, 12:33

I have the same issue:

Using an iPhone X with a 5v 3.1 amp charger, when using scenic the battery lasts only about 4-5 hours.

I don’t have this issue when using Google or Apple navigation!

I have tried a different charger, same results. I have tried placing the iPhone into “airplane mode”, same results.

I’m using Scenic to map my local riding, but revert to DeLorme Atlas and Apple navigation when traveling or running any route longer than 150 miles

I have to admit it's very strange that you do not have this problem with Google Maps or Apple Maps. That would indeed point into the direction of Scenic as the culprit. Then again, the difference simply can not be this big. Your iPhone's biggest battery eaters are, number 1, the screen. If the screen is ON, in full brightness, that's the biggest battery eater. Brightness level (so environment light) makes a huge difference b.t.w. In bright daylight your screen will be on full brightness. On cloudy days and/or night and/or shaded from the sun, the brightness might be lower and thus use less battery.

The second biggest battery eater is the GPS receiver. While there might be slight differences in how Google Maps, Apple Maps and Scenic utilize the GPS receiver, the difference can't be THAT big. Navigation apps simply need high accuracy GPS signal.

Then there is CPU, GPU usage, bluetooth connections, wifi or cellular. These all make a difference and from that perspective it is possible that Scenic uses more battery, but again, the difference can not be that big.

So, my recommendation (similar to @mex recommenation above):
- Make sure you test this in same circumstances. Same ambience light conditions, same connected bluetooth devices, same route, etc. Same other apps running in background, etc. In short... keep everything the same except change the app.

- The other way to test this is like @mex recommended above. Keep everything the same except your charging solution. That will tell you if it's your charging setup.

As a sidenote, in just about all these cases I've heard over the years, it has always been someones charging setup. We even had a user test Scenic's battery usage and it was inline with other nav apps. Have a look at this thread a very similar discussion, and the result of the user's test: https://scenic.app/forum/topic/power-consumtion-scenic-app/

Quote from FLMike on 24.07.2022, 08:34

As it turns out Guido is right again 😎

I had an intermittent issue with my USB-lightning cable. It showed the phone charging, but wouldn’t charge at a satisfactory rate… a swap of the cable and it’s working great again!

Quote from Guido on 24.07.2022, 09:00

Happy you found the solution!

Quote from Mex on 24.07.2022, 12:26

Hi folks.

As i thought. Nice to hear it is just the cable.

Cheapest solution.

Nice community in this forum.

Guys, enjoy the rest of this weekend.

Regards, Mex