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Speed cameras POI

I would love to see speed camera warnings and audio warnings where it's possible.  I have found a blog with guys who daily update POI lists with stationary speed cameras in Croatia and Slovenia.  I wish this could be added to our maps.

BLOG LINK WITH POI FILES: http://snecer-poi.blogspot.com/2015/08/hrvaska-poi-2015.html

 

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There is a way to imporrt custom POIs manually and add proximity warnings for them. Have a look at tutorial video, section ‘Custom POI Import’. https://scenic.app/knowledge-base/scenic-detailed-tutorial-video/

I’m also looking into possibilities to add speed camera support out of the box, but can’t say anything definite about it yet, and will be, if at all, for next motorcycle season.

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Thanks for your instructions and help!  I just imported all the locations as POI, plus all the Passknacker POI for the countries that I visit from time to time.  This will bring my Scenic experience to a whole new level.  Great!

 

The only major feature I'm missing is the camera advance warnings.
I would recommend using the pocketgpsworld.com database as the most advanced and reliable - paid subscription but the fee is really small. Speed limits are also included in the database.

In many countries (like the UK) it is 100% legal to use GPS cameras database and to warn in advance - the idea to reduce speed in a dangerous zone but not to punish people (at least in the UK), so camera warnings are "lifesavers".

I'm riding a very powerful bike (electric Energica Eva Ribelle) and this feature will be really helpful.

@shapa I’m trying to add the UK safety cameras. I know your comment is a year old but do you remember which gpx file you chose? There seem to be loads to choose from and it’s not obvious which one will work with scenic?

@shack - https://www.pocketgpsworld.com

You can download GPX from there.

When using Scenic while navigating a Route on my Motorcycle, the most important deficiency I experience is that there is no active-map (on-the-fly) reporting  such as what is seen in my personal favorite (non-motorcycle-specific) navigation app - WAZE.

In my neck of the woods here in Florida, the biggest threat to my enjoying a ride are Police who are intent at trying to dish out as many speeding tickets as possible.  WAZE serves to act kind of like my personal radar detector and (often) successfully alerts me to Police presence.

I would be willing to sub$cribe to this sort of "advanced" feature in Scenic if it were made available to me.  As it stands, I often switch over to WAZE while actively navigating a Route in Scenic.  In this way the screen shows WAZE while Scenic continues to provide me with audible voice prompts to keep me on track.  I wish I could have my cake and eat it too!

Beyond Police locations I also enjoy seeing speed-reduction live on WAZE - to help me avoid traffic.

Thanks for listening!

I'm an avid WAZE user myself in the car, so I fully understand the requests 🙂

Ultimately Scenic 3 will add traffic support, but not from the beginning.

Regarding the reporting function... there's two reasons why I can't / won't implement that at this point:
1. Having a real time reporting system like this requires a vast network of users worldwide that constantly use the app and report and update incidents (police, pot hole, accidents, etc.). Although Scenic is quite heavily used in the motorcycling community by no means can it compare to Waze. Another option would be to tap in such a report database of another app, but as far as I know there is no publicly available wordwide database of those real time reports.

2. Safety reasons: in the car it's relatively easy to tap on the screen and report something  etc), but on the motorcycle it's more difficult and it can have a lot bigger consequences should this go wrong.

 

Fixed safety camera's is a different topic. Currently you can load those as a Custom POI Group (see that section in the tutorial video) and in Scenic 3 there will be a built in feature for that in the future.

Hope this helps/explains. If not or if you have other questions please let me know. Happy to help.

Best regards and ride safe,
Guido

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Perhaps Waze would be willing to sell you the active-police-presence functionality (feature) and Scenic users could subscribe to get that functionality?  I would not want to be able to report nor confirm the presence of police etc while using Scenic.

Waze does not have a public API for that. I actually was in contact with them, maybe 2 years ago, but they do not make their data available to others (well, except Google since it's owned by Google 🙂).

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One thing that would be nice to improve - the POI name adjustable pronunciation. For example, the GPX POI data files I'm using (from the pocketgpsworld) - the POI name is

<name>30-pM-112821</name>

When the App is saying "30 pM oneonetwo..." - obviously, it's distracting 🙂

Ideally:
To be able to adjust how many letters to read, i.e. to add a setting "to ignore dash / read only first 4 letters", so it will be "30pM"

I can share a sample GPX file (UK cameras, for example).

Additionally, it could be useful not to make any voice prompt but some alert signal (aka bell / warning sound / etc, could be uploaded by a user).

Hmmm… I’m not sure I feel comfortable in implementing such a feature. After all there are many sources that is being imported from, each with different formats and such. In this case I think a better solution would be to change the names before importing with some kind of  powerful text editor. 

Replacing the verbal announcement with a kind of beep is a better, more robust solution. I will add that to the list for Scenic 3. L

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Hi Guys,

Based on your experience, what's the best place to download POI files with Speed Trap Camera ?

I'm looking more specifically for:

  • Canada
  • USA
  • Europe
    • Belgium
    • France
    • Luxembourg
    • Germany
    • Austria
    • Hungary
    • Roumania
    • Solvakie
    • Poland
    • Czechia

I'm OK with paying website.

Thanks,

Guido, das Problem ist bei den custom poi, wenn zu groß oder zu viele in der App sind, das die App abstürzt und sich nicht mehr starten lässt.

einzig ein löschen und eine Neuinstallation hilft dann.

getestet hab ich mit einer kompletten Europa.gpx Größe 4,2 mb mit gefahrenstellen (zu groß - App stürzt ab und öffnet nicht mehr - Neuinstallation…)

oder aber auch mit einzelnen kleineren files, zb mit poi’s verschiedenster Kategorien

sobald aber gesamt mehr als 22000 poi’s, egal wo auf der Welt in der App sind, stürzt sie ab, wenn man sie anzeigen möchte (nur eine Neuinstallation der App hilft, aber vor aktivieren der poi’s unbedingt diese löschen und eben weniger installieren)

 

auch wenn man eine Liste mit zu vielen kleineren Tracks anzeigen möchte, funktioniert dies nicht und hat zur Abhilfe nur eine Neuinstallation der App zur Folge

 

desweiteren kann man beim iPad nicht mehrere poi’s bzw alle gleichzeitig zum Import wählen(der aktuellen gpx), beim iPhone funktioniert es problemlos

Quote from Kanabel on 27.08.2021, 12:46

Hi Guys,

Based on your experience, what's the best place to download POI files with Speed Trap Camera ?

I'm looking more specifically for:

  • Canada
  • USA
  • Europe
    • Belgium
    • France
    • Luxembourg
    • Germany
    • Austria
    • Hungary
    • Roumania
    • Solvakie
    • Poland
    • Czechia

I'm OK with paying website.

Thanks,

try this link, it works: https://www.poi-radary.eu/

 

Hi,

i have downloaded the uk speed cameras as suggested by shappa from https://www.pocketgpsworld.com, but now having issues with scenic shutting itself down unless the display poi is switched off.  Also if I try to go into locations/my poi groups, scenic shuts itself down.

Help please, as I love scenic, but I can longer use it, as it keeps shutting itself down!!!

Actually it was a problem with the first few releases (v3), but latest updates - I'm not seeing a problem anymore, the app is not crashing when I'm enabling cameras POI. But I'm only using UK area, it could be a problem with a bigger country / more cameras...

@iom_dave could you contact me through email (‘email me’ button at bottom of help page).
It crashing when you open locations > POI groups might indicate another problem (something wrong with the import) as the one Shapa was referring to.

Mention your Scenic nickname. I’ll have to probably reset your password to login with your account and see what’s going on.

 

 

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Hi Guido, i tried to install POIs via website Speed Camera Database for navigation (poi-radary.eu). The speed cameras from Austria, Slovenia and Spain were shown in scenic after installing. France and Italy not. It seems that the files for France and Italy are "empty". Can you please doublecheck. If so, do you know an alternative website where I can download speed cameras. Many thanks in advance.

@fm_scenic

contact poi-radary.eu it’s not a scenic problem

alternate poi eg. https://www.scdb.info or google

Also please be careful with big POI groups. I recommend keeping the POI groups below 1000. See above in this thread for more details.

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  1. Am I missing something or is the POI function still not working properly in version 3.10.? I can see POI’s on the map but need audible notification of upcoming speed cameras on my route and the ability to manage groups of POI’s just like we had in v2. For me (second only to navigation) this is the most important feature of the app and the reason I adopted it as my goto nav app.  Based in the UK there so many cameras on the roads these days, for me it’s an essential (currently missing) feature.

I understand. Unfortunately the performance problems that Scenic is facing with large poi groups (= the reasons why I have not implemented audible alerts yet and also why I recommend not to use big >2000 POI groups), are caused by the HERE framework, not by Scenic code. So, I can't solve it myself. Well... the only way to solve this is to switch to HERE's new framework. I'm doing this after the summer. So, I'm afraid this will be something for next riding season. Sorry.

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Thanks for the reply Guido, I understand this is beyond your control so hope it can be resolved in the medium term. After a couple of recent offences (35 in 30 zones) I  think I’ll need to explore other options for my general A-B routing and perhaps just use Scenic for more complex routes.

I'm using a workaround for camera warnings. I run the app flitsmeister in the background, witch gives audible warnings and small popups on the display.

Sounds like what I need, I will definitely give that a try

Thank you.

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Hi Guido,
didnyou think about an interface to Blitzer.de database ?

there are a lot of mobile and stationary POIs wich are updated real-time through the Blitzer.de network  Not only in Germany - it works in France, Swiss and Italy as i know

Perhaps this feature may be not for free…

regards

Ingo

Hi Igno,

During fall/winter I'm migrating Scenic to the new HERE framework. This has built in speed cameras, which I will make available in Scenic. I don't know what the underlying data is for the speed cams in HERE. I suspect it's not as good as Blitzer for the mobile checks, but since Scenic is worldwide, I prefer to use the built in solution, in stead of integrating with many local sites like Blitzer. Hope you understand.

Best regards,
Guido

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Hi @guidomm,

I've just signed up for and started using Scenic, and was looking to try and import speed camera data for the UK, however, based on what you're saying in your last post it might be worth just waiting until that capability is built in natively. I just wanted to check whether you have any idea of the likely timeline for migrating to the new HERE framework and implementing the built in speed camera data?

Thanks,

Alex

 

 

Quote from am2198 on 21.11.2022, 06:55

Hi @guidomm,

I've just signed up for and started using Scenic, and was looking to try and import speed camera data for the UK, however, based on what you're saying in your last post it might be worth just waiting until that capability is built in natively. I just wanted to check whether you have any idea of the likely timeline for migrating to the new HERE framework and implementing the built in speed camera data?

Thanks,

Alex

 

 

I’m migrating Scenic to the new HERE framework over winter, and will be adding the speed cam database while I’m at it. If all goes according to plan this should be ready by the time the motorcycle season starts in the UK.

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I love the way Scenic is constantly evolving. Over time the app with ideas from the users are implemented by Guido into an app that just gets better. Out of  curiosity apart from speed cameras what does the new HERE map framework improve on over the current framework ?

Out of  curiosity apart from speed cameras what does the new HERE map framework improve on over the current framework ?

The most important reason for the migration is that HERE is decommissioning their old framework. The new framework is built on a new modernized code base, and positions it for future additions.

For the moment I will be transferring all Scenic functionality 1-to-1. I will be adding speed cams and some more map customization options.

Later on I will expand more, but most important is to at least keep current functionality, but then running on the new framework

 

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Quote from Guido on 21.11.2022, 19:34

Out of  curiosity apart from speed cameras what does the new HERE map framework improve on over the current framework ?

The most important reason for the migration is that HERE is decommissioning their old framework. The new framework is built on a new modernized code base, and positions it for future additions.

For the moment I will be transferring all Scenic functionality 1-to-1. I will be adding speed cams and some more map customization options.

Later on I will expand more, but most important is to at least keep current functionality, but then running on the new framework

 

Hi, any updates on the speed cameras?

Wait for the upcoming update. It works great with fixed cameras. Only in a few countries it is not legally allowed, such as Germany. In e.g. Austria, Slovenia, Croatia it works wonderfully, are the countries where I have tested so far.

Quote from theigi on 10.07.2023, 03:26

Wait for the upcoming update. It works great with fixed cameras. Only in a few countries it is not legally allowed, such as Germany. In e.g. Austria, Slovenia, Croatia it works wonderfully, are the countries where I have tested so far.

I'm in UK, so it should be legal.

 

Thanks. Which update is that? Is this being tested in beta and about to be released soon or? In UK, speed cameras are a big thing, part of every big navigation app, Google Maps have them, Waze, TomTom. I've read something that Detecht will soon release an update introducing speed cameras, but I would really prefer to stay with Scenic.

UK speed cams are included. This is the big update announcement: https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=pfbid02n85GCoRr2MaBz4rzviKr5tXyq8aFB2VwAXUSLkUznUehWUGNJuRnEF2Wy6rrY5fkl&id=100040042641570

It’s currently in beta test  no exact date when it’s ready  it will be a little while longer

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Quote from Guido on 10.07.2023, 05:12

UK speed cams are included. This is the big update announcement: https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=pfbid02n85GCoRr2MaBz4rzviKr5tXyq8aFB2VwAXUSLkUznUehWUGNJuRnEF2Wy6rrY5fkl&id=100040042641570

It’s currently in beta test  no exact date when it’s ready  it will be a little while longer

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Cool . Looking forward to it. Thanks.

Hi Guido, do you know when speed camera POIs with advance warnings will be added to the app? Thanks

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Hi,

I'm new here, so sorry if I have not seen all/or missed some from this topic...

I would propose for germany (also seems to handle most of europa too) -> blitzer.de (also the name of the app)

this is the best app for warning from speed-cams with a tremendous big user-base, so you have also a good reliable source for mobile speed-cams (they compete with  watze easily)  ...

As I have seen that they are working with other companies (e.g. hardware like onoo) together, there should be an api for accessing their data

-> perhabs you could reach out to them, would be gift 😉

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Not been on here for a while. This comment sparked my interest. Has the "big update" already occurred or still in the works? Thanks, Guido for this fantastic go-to app.

Still in the works. A few more weeks.

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Hello,

looks that the functionality is now implemented, which is great !

But even if I select all the speed camera options (planification, tracking, and Warning ) , it doesn’t show anything or any warning . I’m in France, premium user .

thanks

 

I just looked into this; it appears to be a bug AND a limitation.

It's a limitation because, in France, it's legally not allowed to show the exact location of speed cameras. So, the HERE framework that Scenic uses does not give the precise location, and thus can not show speed cameras on the map in France.

It's a bug because Scenic should warn you when you enter a "danger zone." Danger zones refer to areas with an increased risk of traffic incidents. Typically, danger zones indicate the presence of a speed camera.

I will fix this for the next update so that you get a warning when you enter such a danger zone, but unfortunately, you won't be able to see the exact location. Sorry.

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Hello Guido,

you once said that you might be working on a workaround for Germany - to be able to display the safety cams.

I would be happy if this is available in Scenic.

Best Regards, Mathias

I understand. It's high on the list, but first need to focus on getting rid of the last teething problems of 3.5

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thanks Guido for your efforts in this case.

Also to solve all such issues with not provided data from the navigation-maps-supplier, please try to reach out to the guys from Blitzer.de.

They should have an API for other 3rd parties and they are the uncontested instance for speed-cams in hole europe. To have an map-overlay from them would be a tremendous gift.

Quote from mattik on 17.03.2024, 10:57

Hello Guido,

you once said that you might be working on a workaround for Germany - to be able to display the safety cams.

I would be happy if this is available in Scenic.

Best Regards, Mathias

Hi Mathias,

There is a workaround. You can download the free app Flitsmeister (FM) and run it in the background. This app will give you actual information and voice messages will be streamed to your headset. Not only the fixed cameras but much more information like ambulances etc.

Just try it, Geert-Henk

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Quote from mattik on 17.03.2024, 10:57

Hello Guido,

you once said that you might be working on a workaround for Germany - to be able to display the safety cams.

I would be happy if this is available in Scenic.

Best Regards, Mathias

Hi Mathias,

There is a workaround. You can download the free app Flitsmeister (FM) and run it in the background. This app will give you actual information and voice messages will be streamed to your headset. Not only the fixed cameras but much more information like ambulances etc.

Just try it, Geert-Henk

Hello Geert-Henk,

thank you for your tip.

There are other apps that provide a workaround.
But it's important to me to have the notifications on the display - and that's only possible with Scenic.

I look forward to Guido implementing a solution.

Best regards, Mathias

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