security, waterproof, etc...
Quote from oldNNtheway on 01.06.2025, 12:30Many years ago, pre-phone apps, I started using two of the cheapest, refurbished car garmins available. One for the ride on top of tank bag with north up paper and one super cheap Garmin in reserve. Hellova lot cheaper, fraction of the total zoot Moto Entertainment Center things. Now do same with iPhone. Cheapest refurbished iPhone with space for offline maps and will take whatever system Scenic needs.
Never yet lost any of them to rain, bucketing all day, horrible roads, theft, tank bag goes where I go. Any fool who needs a totally obsolete device can have it.
My actual iPhone with communication, music, etc. never leaves its case in double strap leg bag. Unthinkable.
Many years ago, pre-phone apps, I started using two of the cheapest, refurbished car garmins available. One for the ride on top of tank bag with north up paper and one super cheap Garmin in reserve. Hellova lot cheaper, fraction of the total zoot Moto Entertainment Center things. Now do same with iPhone. Cheapest refurbished iPhone with space for offline maps and will take whatever system Scenic needs.
Never yet lost any of them to rain, bucketing all day, horrible roads, theft, tank bag goes where I go. Any fool who needs a totally obsolete device can have it.
My actual iPhone with communication, music, etc. never leaves its case in double strap leg bag. Unthinkable.
Quote from oldNNtheway on 03.06.2025, 05:30Adds another layer of not altogether stable or reliable comm tech. My point is modern convenience of gps at minimum exposure and less economic cost and dependency.
North up paper and Silva since mid 1950s are reference standards here.
Adds another layer of not altogether stable or reliable comm tech. My point is modern convenience of gps at minimum exposure and less economic cost and dependency.
North up paper and Silva since mid 1950s are reference standards here.



