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Scenic 4.22 IpadOS 26 beta

Hi

Not sure if a bug or an iPad beta issue but scenic 4.22 does not load on an iPad mini running the latest iPadOS 26 developer beta.

Obviously not an issue as 26 is beta but thought worth mentioning in case you were not aware.

one of two things happens on load. Either it quits immediately or you get the splash screen and the part of the startup sound then it quits.

Cheers

darren

 

Same here. I thought I read a reply about it being an issue on Apples end and the next beta should fix it. However it's the same startup crash with the newly released beta 4.

I understand we're ahead the curve running developer beta.

11" iPad Pro M4, PadOS 26 (23A5297i)

Deleted and reinstalled the app after the last beta 4 update with no change. No Scenic location services option in Privacy settings as well if that helps.

If there's anything I can do to provide helpful info please let me know.

Running iPadOS 26 Public Beta, Scenic beta-v4.22(3) is still crashing upon startup.

Not sure if anyone will look into this issue or if they want assistance but crash report below: (most app issue I report through the apps themselves for beta testing rather than public forums , however in this case as the app fails to load the forum seems to be the only place to reports that will need fixing before release of new OS.)

Incident Identifier: FE0AF0E5-2D08-4C3B-8CF9-FFB8C8B16DA4
CrashReporter Key: 01a00a97f35347e890cda8d10d0808576d7ba8b8
Hardware Model: iPad14,1
Process: Scenic [1709]
Path: /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/DD2FC812-D931-41F3-9418-14678C61682E/Scenic.app/Scenic
Identifier: com.pinguido.scenic
Version: 4.22 (3)
AppStoreTools: 16F3
AppVariant: 1:iPad14,1:18
Code Type: ARM-64 (Native)
Role: Foreground
Parent Process: launchd [1]
Coalition: com.pinguido.scenic [858]

Date/Time: 2025-07-26 07:51:35.3701 +0100
Launch Time: 2025-07-26 07:51:34.9220 +0100
OS Version: iPhone OS 26.0 (23A5297m)
Release Type: Beta
Report Version: 104

Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x000000019497e90c
Termination Reason: SIGNAL 5 Trace/BPT trap: 5
Terminating Process: exc handler [1709]

Triggered by Thread: 0

Application Specific Information:
BUG IN CLIENT OF LIBDISPATCH: trying to lock recursively

Yes. Will look at this as soon as I’m back from holiday in 2 weeks.

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Hallo Guido, bin ja echt ein großer Fan von Scenic und das seit vielen Jahren. Am 12.6.2025 haben wir bereits über dieses Problem geschrieben, dass die App beim Start immer crasht. Nun haben wir den 16.08. (!!!) und das Problem ist leider immer noch nicht gelöst. Du solltest auch seit 1 Woche wieder aus dem Urlaub zurück sein. Seit 2 Monaten kann ich jetzt keine Touren auf meinem IPad planen und auch die Public Beta von IOS 26 ist längst da und ich kann mein IPhone deshalb nicht auf IOS 26 updaten. Bis wann kannst du denn dieses Problem beheben? Viele Grüße, Christoph

Hi Christoph,

Guido already answered your question two days ago .. https://scenic.app/forum/addpost/3832/?quote=14320

But I must admit I am surprised about your tone in your note - if you just run a preview beta release, where even core things can change with every next version, impatience is not appropriate.

There are other things to be added to scenic at a much higher priority, than fixing an unreleased OS change!

Sorry - but as Guido stated, you will get your fix soon, Markus

Even Apple states :

Da die Beta-Version von Apple noch nicht für den Verkauf freigegeben wurde, sollte dir bewusst sein, dass die Software noch Fehler und Ungenauigkeiten enthalten kann und möglicherweise nicht so reibungslos und einwandfrei funktioniert wie kommerziell freigegebene Software.

Installiere die Beta-Software nur auf Geräten, die nicht für Produktionszwecke eingesetzt werden und daher nicht geschäftskritisch sind. Wir raten dringend dazu, die Beta-Software auf einem Zweitsystem oder Zweitgerät oder im Falle eines Mac auf einer zweiten Partition zu installieren.

 

 

Servus Markus,

all das ist mir als langjähriger Apple Nutzer bestens bekannt. Trotzdem könnten man die (wahrscheinlich) Kleinigkeit schneller reparieren und nicht 2 Monate später immer noch keine Lösung anbieten. Immerhin bezahlen wir ja alle für die Software.

Viele Grüße,

Christoph

I for one do not expect Scenic to work with iOS Beta software until the public release, which is about a month or so away. My post in here was just made to give feedback and a “heads up”. Beta software on a secondary device like an iPad, current public iOS on the daily driver phone without issue.

 

*** ENGLISH BELOW ***

Hi Christoph,

Ich verstehe das. Es gibt zwei Gründe, warum ich gewartet habe:
(1) Aus Erfahrung weiß ich, dass solche Bugs oft gar keine Bugs in Scenic sind, sondern an der neuen iOS-Version liegen. Am Anfang von Scenic (vor über 10 Jahren) habe ich versucht, solche Bugs sofort zu beheben, nur um dann festzustellen, dass die ganze Mühe umsonst war, weil die Fehler gar nicht bei Scenic lagen. Ich habe viel Zeit damit verschwendet, die Bugs zu analysieren und zu versuchen, sie zu fixen, während einfaches Warten auf die nächste iOS-Beta-Version das Problem gelöst hätte.
(2) Mein Urlaub. Dieses Jahr hat mein Familienurlaub genau mit dem Release der öffentlichen iOS-Beta zusammengelegt, bei der Apple die meisten dieser Bugs behebt.

Ich bringe bis Ende der kommenden Woche ein App-Update mit einem Fix raus.

Viele Grüße,

*** ENGLISH ***

Hi Christoph,

I understand. There are two reasons why I waited:
(1) From I experience I know that often times, these bugs are not bugs in Scenic but in the new iOS version. In the beginning of Scenic (over 10 years ago), I tried to fix these bugs very early on, only to find out, that all my efforts were worthless, because the bugs were actually not in Scenic. I had spent a lot of time analysing and trying to fix the bugs, while just waiting for next version of the iOS beta would have solved them.
(2) My holiday. This year my family holiday overlapped with the release of the public beta of iOS where most of these bugs are addressed by Apple.

I'm releasing an app update by end of the coming week with a fix.

Best regards,
Guido

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I feel (based on recent posts) I need to clarify that I opened this post as a heads up only, there was no expectation for a fix prior to iPad and iOS 26 release. It was purely to let developers (Guido) of a potential issue prior to release.

I run the beta on several devices, but in no way I would run a beta on a device I required to be working, and I have zero expectations for any software to work on a beta release. The whole point of a beta test is to test and report - NOT expect a fix in said beta cycle.

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Servus Guido,

vielen Dank erst einmal für deine, wie immer, schnelle Antwort.

Zu 1. - Stimmt, das hast du mir in Juni geschrieben und das fand ich auch sehr logisch. Daher habe ich bei jedem weiteren Beta Update gehofft, dass sich das Problem löst. Da es aber selbst bei der Public Beta immer noch vorhanden war, dachte ich, dass ich dir über diesen Weg mal schreibe, da bestimmt viele das Problem haben.

Zu 2. Dein Urlaub ist dir natürlich von Herzen gegönnt - ich hoffe du hattest eine schöne Zeit!

Dann hoffe ich, dass sich das Problem nächste Woche löst und ich die App auch wieder gebrauchen kann und auch endlich das IOS 26 Public Beta Update installieren kann.

Viele Grüße aus München,

Christoph

Great!

Now that everyone has explained their good intentions, I just hope that starting next week, we won't have to deal with already impatient questions about the new iOS 26 widgets and other cool new features that the new CarPlay will bring.

And if anything promises improvement, it is precisely these new iOS 26 CarPlay extensions that would significantly improve the usability of Scenic.

But while everyone is waiting for speed camera warnings, the "route me directly to a via/stop" feature, etc., this is sure to be rather something for the time around the first service pack of iOS 26.

Sure, Scenic should run on iOS 26, but if even Apple Mail still has a few issues and other apps are limited in terms of display or functionality, I would feel too uncertain to start a tour on an iOS 26 beta device at this point.

But we'll see…

Personally I had to react, as I was really negatively touched by the statement that Guido has been already back from his family holidays for over a week and still no fix - it’s not how I feel we should deal with each other, we never know the others situation or intention.

Thank you, Guido, for putting so much effort into Scenic for all of us, Markus.

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I was out and about today with the iOS 26 "Fix" and routing worked just fine. I'll be on the road for the next two months and I have no hesitation using iOS 26 now that Guido has applied the TestFlight "Fix".  Thanks again Guido!

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Just to note… v4.23 with the iOS26 fix is out in beta only. Will be in App Store by Thursday or Friday. Maybe Wednesday with a bit of luck.

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