Exporting Google my maps to Scenic
Quote from Mauzep on 14.05.2021, 03:21Hello everyone. I am using scenic for years and I can say its a great app for motorcycle navigation. But now I bit confused. Trying to export google my maps route - containing few route layers. First of all - I cant see any stops - all points are "via", next thing - is it possible some how to merge routes from different layers to one single track?
Thanks in advance
Hello everyone. I am using scenic for years and I can say its a great app for motorcycle navigation. But now I bit confused. Trying to export google my maps route - containing few route layers. First of all - I cant see any stops - all points are "via", next thing - is it possible some how to merge routes from different layers to one single track?
Thanks in advance
Quote from PeteRT on 14.05.2021, 04:31You are doing better than me. I have tried before to export Google My Map files which are in KMZ or KML format and neither type import into Scenic for me. I have created a route in just Google maps web page and copied the hyperlink into the Scenic Web App. That works quite well.
Have you successfully imported a route into Scenic ? If you have you can edit the 'via' points into 'Stops' On the edit page tap on the 'More' menu item, and select 'Convert all vias to stops'.
You are doing better than me. I have tried before to export Google My Map files which are in KMZ or KML format and neither type import into Scenic for me. I have created a route in just Google maps web page and copied the hyperlink into the Scenic Web App. That works quite well.
Have you successfully imported a route into Scenic ? If you have you can edit the 'via' points into 'Stops' On the edit page tap on the 'More' menu item, and select 'Convert all vias to stops'.
Quote from Mauzep on 14.05.2021, 04:46Yes, I did. I just downloaded KMZ file and added one into Scenic. And it works fine except one thing - all stops are lost. Unfortunately - manual conversion is not an option as far as route is a bit complex and contains hundreds of bias and many stops.
Yes, I did. I just downloaded KMZ file and added one into Scenic. And it works fine except one thing - all stops are lost. Unfortunately - manual conversion is not an option as far as route is a bit complex and contains hundreds of bias and many stops.
Quote from PeteRT on 14.05.2021, 05:28OK just tried again making sure the downloaded file is a KMZ. On import to Scenic I get the following error message.
OK just tried again making sure the downloaded file is a KMZ. On import to Scenic I get the following error message.
Quote from Mauzep on 14.05.2021, 05:58Actually am OK with both KML&KMZ. As well as with the direct link. But I am doing this from the PC.
Actually am OK with both KML&KMZ. As well as with the direct link. But I am doing this from the PC.
Quote from Mauzep on 14.05.2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Quote from Guido on 14.05.2021, 09:49Quote from PeteRT on May 14, 2021, 05:28OK just tried again making sure the downloaded file is a KMZ. On import to Scenic I get the following error message.
Hi Peter,
KMZ, KML, GDB and ITN files can only be imported through the Scenic WebApp. The iOS app can only import GPX.
Cheers,
Guido
Quote from PeteRT on May 14, 2021, 05:28OK just tried again making sure the downloaded file is a KMZ. On import to Scenic I get the following error message.
Hi Peter,
KMZ, KML, GDB and ITN files can only be imported through the Scenic WebApp. The iOS app can only import GPX.
Cheers,
Guido
Quote from Guido on 14.05.2021, 09:49Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Have you tried copy/pasting the Google My Maps URL in the WebApp? It can handle Google Maps links, but also Google My Map links. https://scenicapp.space/webapp.php
Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Have you tried copy/pasting the Google My Maps URL in the WebApp? It can handle Google Maps links, but also Google My Map links. https://scenicapp.space/webapp.php
Quote from Guido on 14.05.2021, 09:52Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Could you share the My Maps URL here perhaps? Or, if you're not comfortable doing that, email it to me? (There's an 'email me' button all the way at the bottom of the support page.
Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Could you share the My Maps URL here perhaps? Or, if you're not comfortable doing that, email it to me? (There's an 'email me' button all the way at the bottom of the support page.
Quote from PeteRT on 14.05.2021, 10:22Brilliant. The Google My Maps route KMZ file does indeed work via the Scenic Web App.
Thanks Guido.
Brilliant. The Google My Maps route KMZ file does indeed work via the Scenic Web App.
Thanks Guido.
Quote from Mauzep on 16.05.2021, 15:30Quote from Guido on May 14, 2021, 09:49Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Have you tried copy/pasting the Google My Maps URL in the WebApp? It can handle Google Maps links, but also Google My Map links. https://scenicapp.space/webapp.php
Yes, I did, same result.
Quote from Guido on May 14, 2021, 09:49Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Have you tried copy/pasting the Google My Maps URL in the WebApp? It can handle Google Maps links, but also Google My Map links. https://scenicapp.space/webapp.php
Yes, I did, same result.
Quote from Mauzep on 16.05.2021, 15:32Quote from Guido on May 14, 2021, 09:52Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Could you share the My Maps URL here perhaps? Or, if you're not comfortable doing that, email it to me? (There's an 'email me' button all the way at the bottom of the support page.
Hello Guido, NP, here it is: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1GTJA6uw4DUcEj-udi1ZjMGrceHLzaoso&usp=sharing
Quote from Guido on May 14, 2021, 09:52Quote from Mauzep on May 14, 2021, 06:18The worst thing it was not like this before. I am absolutely sure - it was a visibility of waypoints some time ago.
Could you share the My Maps URL here perhaps? Or, if you're not comfortable doing that, email it to me? (There's an 'email me' button all the way at the bottom of the support page.
Hello Guido, NP, here it is: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1GTJA6uw4DUcEj-udi1ZjMGrceHLzaoso&usp=sharing
Quote from Guido on 17.05.2021, 12:03Well. I investigated it, but I can't see anything wrong on Scenic side.
A little bit of background to explain:
- If you paste this link in the WebApp, in essence, the webApp requests the KML file from Google My Maps
(so you exporting to KML / KMZ and then importing those file through the WebApp, is basically the same)
- Once received this KML file is converted to a GPX file by the WebApp. This is done by a 3rd party library which I did not change nor update for a very long time.
- When you then go to the import queue in Scenic on your iPhone, you see only tracks in the GPX and not routes. (Scenic needs routes to identify stops, as a track is just a list of coordinates without stop info).
- I then downloaded the KML directly and looked at it through a text editor. I only see two "LineString" elements in there, and those are converted to a track.So, if anything changed, I'm almost positive it's not on Scenic side. Perhaps Google My Maps changed how they generate the KML files??? I honestly don't know... Google My Maps import is not a highly used feature in Scenic, so I've not received other feedback on this for some time.
Sorry I can't be of more help in this.
Well. I investigated it, but I can't see anything wrong on Scenic side.
A little bit of background to explain:
- If you paste this link in the WebApp, in essence, the webApp requests the KML file from Google My Maps
(so you exporting to KML / KMZ and then importing those file through the WebApp, is basically the same)
- Once received this KML file is converted to a GPX file by the WebApp. This is done by a 3rd party library which I did not change nor update for a very long time.
- When you then go to the import queue in Scenic on your iPhone, you see only tracks in the GPX and not routes. (Scenic needs routes to identify stops, as a track is just a list of coordinates without stop info).
- I then downloaded the KML directly and looked at it through a text editor. I only see two "LineString" elements in there, and those are converted to a track.
So, if anything changed, I'm almost positive it's not on Scenic side. Perhaps Google My Maps changed how they generate the KML files??? I honestly don't know... Google My Maps import is not a highly used feature in Scenic, so I've not received other feedback on this for some time.
Sorry I can't be of more help in this.
Quote from Mauzep on 18.05.2021, 02:23Quote from Guido on May 17, 2021, 12:03Well. I investigated it, but I can't see anything wrong on Scenic side.
A little bit of background to explain:
- If you paste this link in the WebApp, in essence, the webApp requests the KML file from Google My Maps
(so you exporting to KML / KMZ and then importing those file through the WebApp, is basically the same)
- Once received this KML file is converted to a GPX file by the WebApp. This is done by a 3rd party library which I did not change nor update for a very long time.
- When you then go to the import queue in Scenic on your iPhone, you see only tracks in the GPX and not routes. (Scenic needs routes to identify stops, as a track is just a list of coordinates without stop info).
- I then downloaded the KML directly and looked at it through a text editor. I only see two "LineString" elements in there, and those are converted to a track.So, if anything changed, I'm almost positive it's not on Scenic side. Perhaps Google My Maps changed how they generate the KML files??? I honestly don't know... Google My Maps import is not a highly used feature in Scenic, so I've not received other feedback on this for some time.
Sorry I can't be of more help in this.
Thanks a lot for you time! Ok the problem is google - now its clear for me. But I am a bit confused of why people don't use Google my maps. For me its default route plain app for the years. May I ask you for the advice - what is the better alternative for Google My Maps? What route planning solution is better for using?
Quote from Guido on May 17, 2021, 12:03Well. I investigated it, but I can't see anything wrong on Scenic side.
A little bit of background to explain:
- If you paste this link in the WebApp, in essence, the webApp requests the KML file from Google My Maps
(so you exporting to KML / KMZ and then importing those file through the WebApp, is basically the same)
- Once received this KML file is converted to a GPX file by the WebApp. This is done by a 3rd party library which I did not change nor update for a very long time.
- When you then go to the import queue in Scenic on your iPhone, you see only tracks in the GPX and not routes. (Scenic needs routes to identify stops, as a track is just a list of coordinates without stop info).
- I then downloaded the KML directly and looked at it through a text editor. I only see two "LineString" elements in there, and those are converted to a track.So, if anything changed, I'm almost positive it's not on Scenic side. Perhaps Google My Maps changed how they generate the KML files??? I honestly don't know... Google My Maps import is not a highly used feature in Scenic, so I've not received other feedback on this for some time.
Sorry I can't be of more help in this.
Thanks a lot for you time! Ok the problem is google - now its clear for me. But I am a bit confused of why people don't use Google my maps. For me its default route plain app for the years. May I ask you for the advice - what is the better alternative for Google My Maps? What route planning solution is better for using?
Quote from Guido on 18.05.2021, 07:12I don’t know why people don’t use Google My Maps, I can only answer for myself. I think it’s not so straight forward / easy to use.
For route planning, I can recommend three options:
For simple routes: Google Maps
For more complicated route with more stops: Kurviger (they also have some new features to name the stops and choose different routing modes between the stops… which are all supported by Scenic too)
For long multi day trip planning: Furkot. Furkot is very powerfull and has a lot of options for planning routes, but also reserving hotels en restaurants along the way.
all these three integrate with Scenic one way or another. Here’s more info on that: https://scenic.app/knowledge-base/ways-sources-to-import/
I don’t know why people don’t use Google My Maps, I can only answer for myself. I think it’s not so straight forward / easy to use.
For route planning, I can recommend three options:
For simple routes: Google Maps
For more complicated route with more stops: Kurviger (they also have some new features to name the stops and choose different routing modes between the stops… which are all supported by Scenic too)
For long multi day trip planning: Furkot. Furkot is very powerfull and has a lot of options for planning routes, but also reserving hotels en restaurants along the way.
all these three integrate with Scenic one way or another. Here’s more info on that: https://scenic.app/knowledge-base/ways-sources-to-import/
