CarPlay Issues
Quote from David_G on 20.07.2022, 02:53Hi Guido,
I tried out CarPlay yesterday when returning from my vacation and I found some viewing issues, which I captured on video.
This was on Scenic v3.12 and a VW Discover Media PQ (2019) in case you need that.
- When moving the map around, a button appears at the top, which, I assume, is intended to center the map on your current location. But the button instead just gets you an overview of the map. If this behavior is wanted, then I would suggest to change the button to the "overview" button, we all know. Or change it so the map actually zooms to your current location. Or maybe do both?
- A few viewing issues: In "small mode", the speed limit sign covers the current location marker. Also the actual speed hops from the top left corner to the middle of the screen. Also the current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay.When changing to "full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left instead of just from above/behind the current position marker.
VIDEO: CarPlay_small_view
- In full screen mode, after some time of riding with a constant 140kph with cruise control in a 130kph speed limit, a warning message pops up "speed too high". That message goes away seconds after it appears and pops right up. This repeats until my current speed is below the speed limit again. My guess is, that the hystereses for this message is too small, so it reappears just from the GPS speed jumping up and down by a few kph.
Strangely, it takes some time of driving at that speed until that issue begins.VIDEO: CarPlay_speed_warning
Hi Guido,
I tried out CarPlay yesterday when returning from my vacation and I found some viewing issues, which I captured on video.
This was on Scenic v3.12 and a VW Discover Media PQ (2019) in case you need that.
- When moving the map around, a button appears at the top, which, I assume, is intended to center the map on your current location. But the button instead just gets you an overview of the map. If this behavior is wanted, then I would suggest to change the button to the "overview" button, we all know. Or change it so the map actually zooms to your current location. Or maybe do both?
- A few viewing issues: In "small mode", the speed limit sign covers the current location marker. Also the actual speed hops from the top left corner to the middle of the screen. Also the current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay.When changing to "full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left instead of just from above/behind the current position marker.
VIDEO: CarPlay_small_view
- In full screen mode, after some time of riding with a constant 140kph with cruise control in a 130kph speed limit, a warning message pops up "speed too high". That message goes away seconds after it appears and pops right up. This repeats until my current speed is below the speed limit again. My guess is, that the hystereses for this message is too small, so it reappears just from the GPS speed jumping up and down by a few kph.
Strangely, it takes some time of driving at that speed until that issue begins.VIDEO: CarPlay_speed_warning
Quote from Guido on 20.07.2022, 11:34Hi David,
Thanks very much for the detailed feedback incl videos. Very helpfull!
When moving the map around, a button appears at the top, which, I assume, is intended to center the map on your current location. But the button instead just gets you an overview of the map.
When a route is active, it's intended to give the overview, so I will change the button image to the 'overview' button image (or just make it the 'overview' text).
In "small mode", the speed limit sign covers the current location marker.
I noticed that myself. Will make some adjustments.
actual speed hops from the top left corner to the middle of the screen
Will take a look at that.
current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay
OK. Seems to be 'stuck' at 0. Will also take a look at that.
"full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left
There doesn't seem to be a configuration option to move the entire camera view (the place from where you are looking at) to the right. Only the angle can be changed in order to shift the current position indicator to the right. I'll take another look though to see if there's a workaround.
warning message pops up "speed too high". That message goes away seconds after it appears and pops right up.
That's not right. Will also take a look at that. Meanwhile you could change the threshold in Settings, so that the warning only appears when you are a certain speed above the speed limit. I know this only shifts the problem, but specifically when on cruise control this might just keep it under the threshold. (cruise controls are constantly adjusting to account for inclination, headwind, corners, etc. so there will aways be small speed variations)
Hi David,
Thanks very much for the detailed feedback incl videos. Very helpfull!
When moving the map around, a button appears at the top, which, I assume, is intended to center the map on your current location. But the button instead just gets you an overview of the map.
When a route is active, it's intended to give the overview, so I will change the button image to the 'overview' button image (or just make it the 'overview' text).
In "small mode", the speed limit sign covers the current location marker.
I noticed that myself. Will make some adjustments.
actual speed hops from the top left corner to the middle of the screen
Will take a look at that.
current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay
OK. Seems to be 'stuck' at 0. Will also take a look at that.
"full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left
There doesn't seem to be a configuration option to move the entire camera view (the place from where you are looking at) to the right. Only the angle can be changed in order to shift the current position indicator to the right. I'll take another look though to see if there's a workaround.
warning message pops up "speed too high". That message goes away seconds after it appears and pops right up.
That's not right. Will also take a look at that. Meanwhile you could change the threshold in Settings, so that the warning only appears when you are a certain speed above the speed limit. I know this only shifts the problem, but specifically when on cruise control this might just keep it under the threshold. (cruise controls are constantly adjusting to account for inclination, headwind, corners, etc. so there will aways be small speed variations)
Quote from David_G on 21.07.2022, 06:02Thanks for looking into it!
current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay
OK. Seems to be 'stuck' at 0. Will also take a look at that.
It jumped between 0 and 1 from time to time, but nothing else.
"full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left
There doesn't seem to be a configuration option to move the entire camera view (the place from where you are looking at) to the right. Only the angle can be changed in order to shift the current position indicator to the right. I'll take another look though to see if there's a workaround.
Hm ok. Would be great if you could figure something out. I find it quite distracting as it is now because a straight road does not look straight on the map.
Another question:
Is there an option to change the zoom level for CarPlay? At those highway speeds I would prefer a more zoomed out map to see more of the surrounding.
Thanks for looking into it!
current altitude is not displayed correctly on CarPlay
OK. Seems to be 'stuck' at 0. Will also take a look at that.
It jumped between 0 and 1 from time to time, but nothing else.
"full screen" mode, the whole track is seen from a tilted angle to the left
There doesn't seem to be a configuration option to move the entire camera view (the place from where you are looking at) to the right. Only the angle can be changed in order to shift the current position indicator to the right. I'll take another look though to see if there's a workaround.
Hm ok. Would be great if you could figure something out. I find it quite distracting as it is now because a straight road does not look straight on the map.
Another question:
Is there an option to change the zoom level for CarPlay? At those highway speeds I would prefer a more zoomed out map to see more of the surrounding.
Quote from Guido on 21.07.2022, 07:35Is there an option to change the zoom level for CarPlay?
In Settings > Navigation & Tracking you can change the zoom from Auto to Manual. When the zoom is manual the zoom buttons will show on the map permanently.
Unfortunately I can’t change the auto zoom behaviour easily. It comes out of the box from HERE maps. Changing it would require a complete custom build zoom function. I might consider this in the future.
Is there an option to change the zoom level for CarPlay?
In Settings > Navigation & Tracking you can change the zoom from Auto to Manual. When the zoom is manual the zoom buttons will show on the map permanently.
Unfortunately I can’t change the auto zoom behaviour easily. It comes out of the box from HERE maps. Changing it would require a complete custom build zoom function. I might consider this in the future.
Quote from David_G on 21.07.2022, 10:36Hm but are those zoom buttons also available in CarPlay if I choose manual?
Not that big of an issue though…
Hm but are those zoom buttons also available in CarPlay if I choose manual?
Not that big of an issue though…
Quote from Guido on 21.07.2022, 10:48Yes...zoom buttons available on CarPlay too if you choose manual.
Yes...zoom buttons available on CarPlay too if you choose manual.
Quote from David_G on 21.07.2022, 10:57Nice thanks!
That will do as a workaround. Is it possible to have specific options for CarPlay and „normal“ mode?
This way one could have different zoom options (and others?) for each mode just as other apps do too.
Nice thanks!
That will do as a workaround. Is it possible to have specific options for CarPlay and „normal“ mode?
This way one could have different zoom options (and others?) for each mode just as other apps do too.
Quote from Guido on 21.07.2022, 10:59Yes. That's on the list to add in the future. For now it's just one generic setting for both phone and CarPlay though.
Yes. That's on the list to add in the future. For now it's just one generic setting for both phone and CarPlay though.
