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CarPlay 4.05 totally usable 😁

Hi Guido

After my previous critical post I think it’s time for a compliment.

Thx for not responding in detail šŸ˜‰ and instead working your #%^* of to bring out this update. This one brought the app to the next level and it is now very usable as my main nav. I’ll do some more testing within the upcoming days, If I notice quirks that are not already mentioned I’ll share them.

1 question. Is it possible to work towards zooming the map in and out with the wonderwheel?

Again. Thank you for the hard work.

CornƩ.

Thanks CornƩ,

In Scenic 3 indeed you could zoom in/out the map on CarPlay with the WunderLINQ (given that you kept iPhone screen ON too). I'm planning to add this back on Scenic 4 too. I assume you have a WunderLINQ? Otherwise it won't be possible. More info here: https://scenic.app/help/handlebar-controllers/

Cheers,
Guido

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Hi

I use a chigee aio-5 for bmw, no Wunderlinq so I guess that’s a no go then? Is there a reason that it only works with that? The native bmw make life a ride app has this feature. Maybe a bmw restriction thing?

This this unit is specific for BMW, it's possible that this can be controlled by Wunderwheel. Can you operate CarPlay itself (switch to other apps, select On screen buttons, etc.) with the Wunderwheel? Also in non-BMW apps like Google Maps? Can you cycle through the on screen buttons in Scenic too?

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Yes I can. All navigation through apps can be done with the wunderwheel as well a switching between apps, splitscreen etc. Zoom works with the wheel when using the dedicated buttons, it’s just a bit unnatural while having a wheel you could use

The only thing that seems to be specific bound to the official app is zooming in and out the map. Also doesn’t work with Apple and google maps. Used that a lot when I had the native phone cradle.

Hmmm... I'm not sure if I can get Scenic to zoom in/out with the Wunderwheel in this case.
I'd need to get a signal when the wunderwheel is turned. Likely this can only be done if you know what signal to look for (like the BMW app would).

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Well. If someday you have the time …. 😁 Wish I could help but I unfortunately can’t.

Or… (noob alert) Ā couldn’t the map itself act like a button? I mean somehow the app knows what I’m doing with the wheel because I can select menu’s, go up and down etc. Maybe if the map would translate up as zoom in and down as zoom out?

The Chigee for BMW is just listening for the wheel movements on the LIN bus, and using that to control the highlighted user element in CarPlay, a bit like controlling a Windows PC using the TAB button and ENTER. The phone never receives the input from the wheel.

I have the non- BMW original version (AIO-5 Lite). I have the LIN adapter plugged into where the native GPS cradle would plugin Ā this gets me wheel control, but also the Chigee displays bike data like speed, tyre pressure etc.

The Honda Africa twin has a similar setup, albeit factory fit. Again, the control is between the CarPlay display and the bike, not the phone.

So then my suggestion could somehow work? Without completely understanding the work that goes with it to create it.

If it were possible, which I’m not sure it is, you would be intercepting up and down and changing it into perform a zoom. What would happen when you actually needed to move up and down to choose another menu option?

 

Maybe you could then select back and next? Like you do to navigate to another element? So zoom only would be active when you select the map?

If the BMW app can do it on CarPlay it's possible. Not sure how though. It would have to be reversed engineered, and I'm quite sure that BMW would not share their secrets.

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The BMW app isn’t CarPlay. It either sits in their proprietary cable to allows control by the wheel, or if you have a bike with the large navigation screen then the phone is Bluetooth connected to the bike to allow the app to work via the wheel, displaying the actual navigation on the bike’s large screen display.

The bmw app only works in combination with there official cradle or there tft dash. It doesn’t support CarPlay. And I guess your assumption is correct, they won’t share there secrets.

Who knows, maybe someday.