A couple of much needed things missing in 4.02
Quote from greg2112 on 17.10.2024, 07:19Guido,
First off, thank you for your hard work and dedication in continuing to make this a great app. I'm sure in time it will exceed the features, performance and user experience of v3.
I'm on 4.02 on all my devices - iPhone 15, iPad Pro, and MacBook M1. I use the desktop/iPad exclusively for routing as I do long day trips and multi-day trips and it's much easier on a bigger screen. Planning stops for food and gas are critically important. In v3, when you pull up the via list from the bottom of the screen it would provide details as to the estimated distance at each via. This was EXTREMELY helpful in planning for fuel stops as well as extrapolating an estimated time for food stops. In v4 it's just a list of vias with no other info. Related to this is that the underlying maps have a lot of unnecessary details, while other much needed details are missing - gas stations, restaurants and other points of interest. I'm planning a three day route into TX Hill Country and I had to do a parallel route plan in Google Maps just to locate gas and food stops, as well as estimated mileage between towns. It is rather cumbersome. When will these details be reincorporated into v4?
Thanks again for your accessibility and persistence. I for one, appreciate it.
Greg
Guido,
First off, thank you for your hard work and dedication in continuing to make this a great app. I'm sure in time it will exceed the features, performance and user experience of v3.
I'm on 4.02 on all my devices - iPhone 15, iPad Pro, and MacBook M1. I use the desktop/iPad exclusively for routing as I do long day trips and multi-day trips and it's much easier on a bigger screen. Planning stops for food and gas are critically important. In v3, when you pull up the via list from the bottom of the screen it would provide details as to the estimated distance at each via. This was EXTREMELY helpful in planning for fuel stops as well as extrapolating an estimated time for food stops. In v4 it's just a list of vias with no other info. Related to this is that the underlying maps have a lot of unnecessary details, while other much needed details are missing - gas stations, restaurants and other points of interest. I'm planning a three day route into TX Hill Country and I had to do a parallel route plan in Google Maps just to locate gas and food stops, as well as estimated mileage between towns. It is rather cumbersome. When will these details be reincorporated into v4?
Thanks again for your accessibility and persistence. I for one, appreciate it.
Greg
Quote from greg2112 on 18.10.2024, 16:36Replying to my own thread for the benefit of others who may have similar concerns on this - I've found a workaround. While not as straightforward as having time and mileage on all the via points in the list, you can arbitrarily choose a via point and and make it a stop. I hadn't noticed that all the stops in the list DO have both time and distance. So if I'm building a route, I pick a town somewhere near where I think it may be time for gas or food, and I make it a stop. If it's too far out or too close in, I use the "undo" feature and try a different town. That seems to work okay for now.
Of bigger concern still is the lack of key POIs and/or POI layers on the map. I can see what seems to be every single church in a community, which are sometimes dozens, but still maybe only one or two gas stations, if any. I liked the layers features in version 3 where you could turn off or on any given POI layer - fuel, food, hotel, ATM, etc.
Replying to my own thread for the benefit of others who may have similar concerns on this - I've found a workaround. While not as straightforward as having time and mileage on all the via points in the list, you can arbitrarily choose a via point and and make it a stop. I hadn't noticed that all the stops in the list DO have both time and distance. So if I'm building a route, I pick a town somewhere near where I think it may be time for gas or food, and I make it a stop. If it's too far out or too close in, I use the "undo" feature and try a different town. That seems to work okay for now.
Of bigger concern still is the lack of key POIs and/or POI layers on the map. I can see what seems to be every single church in a community, which are sometimes dozens, but still maybe only one or two gas stations, if any. I liked the layers features in version 3 where you could turn off or on any given POI layer - fuel, food, hotel, ATM, etc.
Quote from Guido on 18.10.2024, 16:38it's all coming back: https://scenic.app/scenic-4-faqs/
Time for via points not, as this is a fundamental difference between the routing providers and allows to not have nagivation instructions for via points. Sorry.
it's all coming back: https://scenic.app/scenic-4-faqs/
Time for via points not, as this is a fundamental difference between the routing providers and allows to not have nagivation instructions for via points. Sorry.
Quote from greg2112 on 18.10.2024, 16:48I can live without the via details. Coming from IT, I understand that sometimes user "habits" need to change when there is no other recourse. Again, I appreciate all you are doing to improve the app. I'm still a big fan.
I can live without the via details. Coming from IT, I understand that sometimes user "habits" need to change when there is no other recourse. Again, I appreciate all you are doing to improve the app. I'm still a big fan.
